[ptxdist] Classpath -- move out from staging?

[ptxdist] Classpath -- move out from staging?

[Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia]

Hi Michael, all,

I see that the classpath package was moved to staging in commit
f2afdd541d3dc1cbac965ddaf899009780de2aae, with a note stating that it
could not be built with any current (Java) distribution.

My team and I are still using this actively, and it can be built with
OpenJDK 8 which is still supported and is expected to be be supported
for a while (for example Adoptium states it will be supported "At
least until Nov 2026").

Can we move this out of staging? If so I will prepare a patch.

BR,

Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia
guille.rodriguez@gmail.com

Re: [ptxdist] Classpath -- move out from staging?

[Michael Olbrich]

Hi,

On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 04:49:12PM +0200, Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia wrote:
> I see that the classpath package was moved to staging in commit
> f2afdd541d3dc1cbac965ddaf899009780de2aae, with a note stating that it
> could not be built with any current (Java) distribution.
> 
> My team and I are still using this actively, and it can be built with
> OpenJDK 8 which is still supported and is expected to be be supported
> for a while (for example Adoptium states it will be supported "At
> least until Nov 2026").
> 
> Can we move this out of staging? If so I will prepare a patch.

No. In fakt, I should have removed it entirely some time ago. I just missed
it. And I will remove it soon. The problem is, that I cannot even
build-test it any more and that's the minimum requirement for having it
upstream.
It's just a regular package. So please just copy it into you're BSP and
maintain it there.

Regards,
Michael

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Re: [ptxdist] Classpath -- move out from staging?

[Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia]

Hi Michael,

El mié, 18 oct 2023 a las 8:00, Michael Olbrich
(<m.olbrich@pengutronix.de>) escribió:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 04:49:12PM +0200, Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia wrote:
> > I see that the classpath package was moved to staging in commit
> > f2afdd541d3dc1cbac965ddaf899009780de2aae, with a note stating that it
> > could not be built with any current (Java) distribution.
> >
> > My team and I are still using this actively, and it can be built with
> > OpenJDK 8 which is still supported and is expected to be be supported
> > for a while (for example Adoptium states it will be supported "At
> > least until Nov 2026").
> >
> > Can we move this out of staging? If so I will prepare a patch.
>
> No. In fakt, I should have removed it entirely some time ago. I just missed
> it. And I will remove it soon. The problem is, that I cannot even
> build-test it any more and that's the minimum requirement for having it
> upstream.


It should build fine with OpenJDK 8 which is still fully supported and
widely available.
Are you having problems with this?
Can you share the details?

Thanks,

Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia
guille.rodriguez@gmail.com

Re: [ptxdist] Classpath -- move out from staging?

[Michael Olbrich]

Hi,

On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 10:34:10AM +0200, Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia wrote:
> El mié, 18 oct 2023 a las 8:00, Michael Olbrich
> (<m.olbrich@pengutronix.de>) escribió:
> > On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 04:49:12PM +0200, Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia wrote:
> > > I see that the classpath package was moved to staging in commit
> > > f2afdd541d3dc1cbac965ddaf899009780de2aae, with a note stating that it
> > > could not be built with any current (Java) distribution.
> > >
> > > My team and I are still using this actively, and it can be built with
> > > OpenJDK 8 which is still supported and is expected to be be supported
> > > for a while (for example Adoptium states it will be supported "At
> > > least until Nov 2026").
> > >
> > > Can we move this out of staging? If so I will prepare a patch.
> >
> > No. In fakt, I should have removed it entirely some time ago. I just missed
> > it. And I will remove it soon. The problem is, that I cannot even
> > build-test it any more and that's the minimum requirement for having it
> > upstream.
> 
> 
> It should build fine with OpenJDK 8 which is still fully supported and
> widely available.
> Are you having problems with this?
> Can you share the details?

My main test infrastructure runs on Debian. And OpenJDK 8 (and javah, the
tool that is missing) was removed a long time ago.

What's the benefit of having this upstream? You can easily put the package
in your BSP. Is has no special requirements. You seem to be the only user
of this package and without test coverage Upstream there is no benefit in
keeping it here.

Regards,
Michael

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Re: [ptxdist] Classpath -- move out from staging?

[Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia]

El vie, 20 oct 2023 a las 10:06, Michael Olbrich
(<m.olbrich@pengutronix.de>) escribió:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 10:34:10AM +0200, Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia wrote:
> > El mié, 18 oct 2023 a las 8:00, Michael Olbrich
> > (<m.olbrich@pengutronix.de>) escribió:
> > > On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 04:49:12PM +0200, Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia wrote:
> > > > I see that the classpath package was moved to staging in commit
> > > > f2afdd541d3dc1cbac965ddaf899009780de2aae, with a note stating that it
> > > > could not be built with any current (Java) distribution.
> > > >
> > > > My team and I are still using this actively, and it can be built with
> > > > OpenJDK 8 which is still supported and is expected to be be supported
> > > > for a while (for example Adoptium states it will be supported "At
> > > > least until Nov 2026").
> > > >
> > > > Can we move this out of staging? If so I will prepare a patch.
> > >
> > > No. In fakt, I should have removed it entirely some time ago. I just missed
> > > it. And I will remove it soon. The problem is, that I cannot even
> > > build-test it any more and that's the minimum requirement for having it
> > > upstream.
> >
> >
> > It should build fine with OpenJDK 8 which is still fully supported and
> > widely available.
> > Are you having problems with this?
> > Can you share the details?
>
> My main test infrastructure runs on Debian. And OpenJDK 8 (and javah, the
> tool that is missing) was removed a long time ago.
>
> What's the benefit of having this upstream? You can easily put the package
> in your BSP. Is has no special requirements. You seem to be the only user
> of this package and without test coverage Upstream there is no benefit in
> keeping it here.

Well, yes, of course I can easily put the package in our BSPs (the
same could be said for any other package, though).

The benefits of having it upstream are:

1. Not having to manually add this to every BSP (we maintain a bunch
of them already and will be adding more)
2. Having it upstream may increase visibility of the package and thus
possibly increase the chances of people using it (it wouldn't be the
first time I learn about a package because I see it in ptxdist and end
up using it in our BSPs). More people using it is always a good thing
(more eyes).
3. Test coverage upstream, if we can find a way to fix that.

Would you be willing to reconsider if we can find a way to work around
the missing javah?

BR,

Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia
guille.rodriguez@gmail.com