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From: Christian Melki <christian.melki@t2data.com>
To: Erwin Rol <mailinglists@erwinrol.com>
Cc: ptxdist@pengutronix.de
Subject: Re: [ptxdist] year 2038 Toolchain
Date: Mon, 27 May 2024 12:34:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <921fa3c7-83e9-4de7-83ce-c7d40a183785@t2data.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <261a0dbe-5594-4095-bf3b-87901f9a0585@erwinrol.com>

Hello Erwin.

On 5/27/24 10:32 AM, Erwin Rol wrote:
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> On 5/24/24 12:19, Michael Olbrich wrote:
>> On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 11:04:24AM +0200, Erwin Rol wrote:
>>> On 5/24/24 10:41, Ian Abbott wrote:
>>>
>>>>> If I figure it out I'll let you guys know (so it can be added to the
>>>>> official Toolchain)
>>>>
>>>> Rememember to define _FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 too if it is not already
>>>> defined. _TIME_BITS=64 is ineffective when _FILE_OFFSET_BITS=32 for
>>>> Glibc policy reasons.
>>>
>>> I tried some things to convince the Toolchain project (latest gcc13 release)
>>> to use those two defines, but without much luck. Sometimes parts complained
>>> that there were duplicate declarations of (time) functions, with some other
>>> tries it actually complained the the _FILE_OFFSET_BITS was missing for some
>>> part, that I really don't understand because I added them always in pairs.
>>>
>>> So I believe it is just a bit too early for 100% year 2038 compliance at the
>>> moment. Especially when it comes to C++/libstd++ there is also not much info
>>> online.
>>>
>>> But the C part seems to work with the support ptxdist offers, and C++ has
>>> always been some unwanted stepchild, especially now Rust is going to safe
>>> the world :-)
>>
>> So gcc-14 has a --enable-year2038 configure option, but I didn't test if it
>> works.
> 
> Any ETA for a gcc14 ptxdist Toolchain ?
> 

You can always roll your own toolchain?
Esp. If you need to test things. ct-ng toolchains work pretty much as is.
Atleast that's what I always do.

>> But I don't know if that causes any API or ABI incompatibilities.
>> The changelog says "Disable year2038 by default on 32-bit hosts.". That
>> looks a bit suspicious to me.
> 
> Maybe make 2 specific 32bit toolchains, one with TIME_BITS=32 and one
> with TIME_BITS=64? So ppl (like me) can start testing the TIME_BITS=64
> version, and ppl that know for sure they do not care about y2038 can
> keep using the TIME_BITS=32 version ?
> 
> - Erwin
> 

Regards,
Christian



  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-27 10:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-23  6:41 Erwin Rol
2024-05-23 10:38 ` Ian Abbott
2024-05-23 11:52   ` Erwin Rol
2024-05-24  8:41     ` Ian Abbott
2024-05-24  9:04       ` Erwin Rol
2024-05-24 10:19         ` Michael Olbrich
2024-05-27  8:32           ` Erwin Rol
2024-05-27 10:34             ` Christian Melki [this message]
2024-05-23  6:57 Erwin Rol

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