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From: "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" <enrico.weigelt@gr13.net>
To: ptxdist@pengutronix.de, Erwin Rol <mailinglists@erwinrol.com>
Subject: Re: [ptxdist] Yocto
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 21:24:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <544c43fa-d20c-bdf2-d4f5-160dcde0892e@gr13.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1504974783.21495.404.camel@erwinrol.com>

On 09.09.2017 18:33, Erwin Rol wrote:

> Exactly my problem, Yocto is becoming the Ubuntu of embedded Linux, and > like Ubuntu not everything is good about it.

apropos Ubuntu: just had a ugly problem w/ my trusty notebook, which
ate up my precious time: dbus didn't come up (just because a dumb
file - /etc/machine-id - was missing), and therefore nothing else
(except plain console) worked. oh, and some of their kernel versions
suddenly miss wifi drivers, etc, etc ...

> But vendors like Intel, > Xilinx, TI, etc. don't even know ptxdist exists, they all only offer> 
some Yocto layers.
chip vendors usually aren't the right parties for bsp's anyways,
leave that to board vendors, or the folks here :p

>> And the whole bitbake machinery is really slow. > > Over all I don't think bitbake is much slower than ptxdist, when> 
building from 0 to 100%.

I'm talking about the engine itself. It always took me several minutes
of metadata processing before it even starts jobs. Especially while
hacking on some code, it's (IMHO) a big con if it metadata stuff
sometimes takes even longer than the actual build.

> But when you want to do edit->compile->update iterations the "startup"
> time for bitbake seems to be a killer. With ptxdist I just call
> "./ptxdist compile bla" and I have no noticeable delay compared to
> native compiling. That is something I extensively use with ptxdist, and
> for Yocto that doesn't work (at least I don't know how) :-/

Exactly. I need incremental builds almost all the day, so yocto would
just slow me down by magnitudes.

At that point I really wonder whether there's some really good pro
argument that might compensate that big con.


--mtx

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-10 19:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-09 13:03 Erwin Rol
2017-09-09 15:54 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2017-09-09 16:33   ` Erwin Rol
2017-09-10 19:24     ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult [this message]
2017-09-10 20:09       ` Erwin Rol
2017-09-09 18:36 ` Tim Sander
2017-09-10 19:16   ` Robert Schwebel
2017-09-12 18:42     ` Tim Sander
2017-09-12 20:12       ` Robert Schwebel
2017-09-12 21:33         ` Tim Sander
2017-09-13  5:42           ` Robert Schwebel
2017-09-13 15:38       ` Michael Olbrich
2017-09-14 22:44         ` Tim Sander
2017-09-15  6:47           ` Michael Olbrich
2017-09-15 11:02             ` Alm, Michael
2017-09-16  9:25               ` Michael Olbrich
2017-09-10 19:13 ` Robert Schwebel
2017-09-11  9:25 ` Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia
2017-09-12 10:49   ` Alexander Dahl
     [not found] <20170911063001.A6FE73EC2A2E_9B62D69B@mail.eckelmann.de>
2017-09-11  7:14 ` Schenk, Gavin
2017-09-12 10:44   ` Alexander Dahl
2017-09-12 13:29     ` Schenk, Gavin

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